I've never been hip or cool - just right," says Meat Loaf, now greying and slightly subdued, but readying himself to unleash the Bat on the world once more.
Music magazine Q has just put his original 1977 Bat Out of Hell album at the top of its "guilty pleasures" album chart - meaning it is hideously unfashionable but everybody secretly loves it anyway.
"That means all the people can now come out of the closet," he says.